Hype can be a dangerous thing. It can build suspense and expectations beyond the final product resulting in a flop. To say that the build up to Parkway Drive’s third album, “Deep Blue” which came our on the 25th of June through Resist Records has been big would be underselling it. The anticipation to see what these Byron Bay titans could produce after their first two highly successful albums has been rife. Deborah Konopnicki had a chat to lead singer Winston McCall about the anticipation and build up, crazy Australian fans in the Europe and just what to expect with “Deep Blue”.
Hey, Winston. Appreciate your time. How are you and the boys doing at the moment?
Good! We’re halfway through our break which has been four weeks, so we’re two weeks though and then we go on tour for another two months. We’re basically just sitting on our hands at the moment until the record comes out. It’s weird. Because we didn’t change the songs in the studio we kind of know the songs on the record already which is strange, so we’ve only just started mucking around a little bit. We’ve mainly just been surfing.

Nice one. I’ll just get stuck into it then. Your first two albums, “Killing With A Smile” and “Horizons” have been two of the biggest metal and hardcore releases that Australia has seen in recent times. Did you at any stage feel the pressure of trying to create an album that would match the calibre and popularity of those two?
Not particularity, only because we’ve never really felt pressure in anything [that] we’ve done just because we’ve never really expected to do anything with it. We’ve just kind of done what we’ve done and written music that we like to play and write. If people like it then they like it! It’s kind of been the case in the past as well. We’ve never really tried to do anything, so it’s nice that people have liked it. We’re just keen on doing that! We had a definite focus when we wrote this record, because it’s been three years since we wrote the last one because we were so excited to create something new. It wasn’t so much outside pressure as it was pressure from ourselves to try and improve.

Did you have an idea of what kind of album you wanted to create before heading into the studio?
Yeah! We had all of the songs written before we actually went in. We wanted to make an album that was an album as a whole as opposed to 12 songs chucked on a disk. We wanted it to have a flow and a feel that went through the entire thing so that all of the songs would work as a whole together. So, in the past we have written the songs before and have them torn apart in the studio, but this time around we wrote the whole album and then sent the songs off to the producer in the studio who actually didn’t do anything to them. It was nice that they remained in tact.

Did Joe Barresi have much of an influence? Or from the sound of things just he just give you the tick of approval?
Yeah, he had a massive impact. For starters, he left the songs which was pretty insane. He left them the way that they were written which was really great. The way that we recorded with him was a bit more of I guess an organic recording and there was a lot less computer cut-and-paste and mixing kind of thing. We were just playing the music straight up and just going with the feel of things and making sure that if we wanted it super tight then it relies on super tight playing as opposed to technology and him being able to fix things. He basically gave us the tools to create something and said, “Here’s the gear you have to work with. We can make this whatever kind of record you want. If you want it to be tight, you’re going to have to play like that to get the sound [that] you want”. So, that’s what we did!

How would you say that “Deep Blue” differs from the first two albums?
I think that it has a definite flow to it. It’s much more of a varied album when it comes to the sound . It’s not just fast and heavy the whole way through which I think I like a lot more. It makes each bit stand out a lot more. It’s the rawest sound that we have in the sense that it sounds more human and less mechanical. You can hear little variations in the way that the guitar is played and grasp the feeling to it as opposed to a super clinical section that you get from a more machine based recording that we’ve done in the past.

What are some of the themes that you touch upon with the lyrics on this album? Was there anything in particular that you were keen to portray?
It’s weird. I wrote the lyrics a long time ago. I wrote a bunch of lyrics that followed a story. It was 13 songs that all joined into one another. It follows that same way that I’ve always written. I never target specific problems with the world or anything like that, they’re just more ‘human’ songs. They are things that are definitely personal to me but at the same time they’re not just whinging heartbreak songs. I guess the closure that’s come from the recording, the more of me got poured into them. They’re kind of desperate and lonely and kind of dark. That’s the side of me that generally comes out in songs.

Would you say that “Deep Blue” was a concept album then? Or is it a tad more disjointed then that?
No, it definitely is part of a concept. We tried to put that into the mix of what we already had. We didn’t totally restructure the way that we are as a band or write, we just tried to put something else on top and that meant writing songs that had a complete narrative from the beginning of the album to the end of the album. At the same time, if you had the songs separately then they still make sense on their own and still stood on their own as songs. We just wanted to try and have a thread that went all the way through as well and to just challenge ourselves and the way that we wrote music and in the way that I write lyrics as well. It mixes up a fair bit.

Are there any songs that really stand out for you at the moment?
Yeah, there’s a few. A song called “Deliver Me”, a song called “Dead Weight” and a song called “Punish The Heartless.” They’re all, er… ‘nice’. It’s hard because I do like all of the songs and I’m the most attached to these songs that I have been out of any recording that we’ve ever done before. There’s no two songs on the record that sound alike so you find yourself liking each song for a different reason. It doesn’t translate to the same reason that you like another song which is good..

You have a couple of cameo appearances on this album with Brett from Bad Religion and Marshall from The Warriors. What do you think that they add to your record?
Personality and different sounds. Especially Brett. Brett added punk rock to a metal band, let’s put it that way. The influence that he has had on this band with his music in the past has been amazing. To have his collaboration on this was absolutely wonderful and the work that he did on the song was so good. It makes that song for me. It’s strange. You hear a lot of bands that, and especially in our genre that get someone to help out on a song, and you can’t tell the difference between the two vocalists anyway. They have exactly the same voice. Marshall has a very distinct voice and the minute that we wrote the song and this part his voice popped into my head. He’s a great friend of ours and he came in and did this part that’s probably my favourite part of the whole record. It’s kind of nice. They just added a different personality to the songs which is really nice.

While over in the UK and Europe you debuted “Unrest”. How were the hardcore fans reacting?
It was really surprising because it was one of the best songs on the set that we played, which was really strange. I guess that now that we’re in the You Tube age so many of the kids knew it after the third time that we played it because it was up on You Tube. It received a really good reaction, which is also really odd because it’s only like two minutes long and one of the most basic songs that we have. Yeah. It went really well. It’s just so strange to have a song played for the first few times that’s not recorded and having people sing a long and know the words. It’s kind of bizarre.

Have you played any other new ones since?
That’s the only on that we’ve played so far.

I saw your very trippy video for “Sleepwalker” yesterday. I loved it! From a completely visual perspective, it has a very ‘Sin City’ vibe to it. I think I was too distracted by the imagery to understand the concept. What is your take on it?
The concept ties into the first three songs of the record. The concept is basically a guy waking up in the city and, this is to be taken in a very literal sense, but realising how ‘all-consuming’ the city is and its occupants have become as has Western society. When we made the clip, we just wanted to make something that was a little bit different. If people didn’t ‘get’ the narrative behind it then there are entertaining parts to the clip because basically it is just putting visuals to the music. I liked the idea of stylising it in black and white. I’m a big fan of black and white photography and at the same time it also helped because the CGI that we put in it was done by a friend of ours. As soon as you make it black and white you can get away with a hell of a lot more. With colours involved it could take years to do, and we only had a really limited amount of time and a very limited budget. It all played out exactly how we wanted it to so that was nice!

You’ve probably heard this a million times, but the DVD that you released last year is probably one of my favourite music DVDs ever. There is such a relatable aspect to it that really draws in the viewer and takes them along for the journey. We’re you pleased with how it turned out and what did you make of the insane reception from the Australian and worldwide public?
Both were amazing. We were so stoked with how it came out because it’s the first time that we delved into the medium of visuals as opposed to just music which is what we’re used to doing, just writing songs. To have our hands in every aspect of making the documentary was good and it really did come out exactly how we wanted it. I don’t think that it would have come out the same if we had an outside source do it. At the same time, we didn’t really know how people would take it because we figured that it was a bit different from other band documentaries and stuff like that. To have it received how it is, and for people to ‘get’ what we tried to put across and appreciate us for who we are or what we’re not is, well, you can’t really ask for much more. It’s really nice. We put so much of ourselves into that and to have it received in that way was really awesome.

I don’t know if you’re going to remember this particular show from last year… it was in support of ‘The DVD’ tour actually! The show was at The Palace in Melbourne with Architects and August Burns Red. There was a guy in a wheelchair that was pulled up from the pit and onto the stage by the kids in the crowd. I was standing at the back and it felt like the whole intensity of the show just lifted up another notch and became a tad emotional. Do you have things like this happen at many gigs?
Yeah! I totally remember that! That was insane. It was so, so awesome! It was awesome that he got lifted up. The act kind of speaks for itself. You can’t really put that kind of feeling into words. It was so insane. The show was amazing and it was just an experience unto itself. We do have a lot of crazy things happen but that was definitely one of the most emotional things that has happened. It was pretty amazing. Normally it’s just people doing massively large stage dives to get your attention but to have something like that happen and to see crowd… wow. It was such a great vibe that night and it just topped it off.

Yeah, I won’t lie. I was almost in tears and so were the two friends that I was with.
Yeah, so were most people I think.

You guys are set to play The Warped Tour starting shortly. It’s most definitely not your first time on the line-up, but how does a band from Australia go about preparing for such an intense and harsh tour?
It is intense and harsh! (laughs). It’s SO hot and it’s a gruelling, gruelling tour. It is really, really fun and I guess that we’re conditioned pretty well. We know that the Warped tour is really hot, so it’s basically just a lot of singlets and a lot of shorts and you only have to play for a half-an-hour a day so after a couple of weeks you kind of just get used to it. Either the show goes well or it’s shocking. You just play and do what you do, hang out in a bunch of tents. It’s set out so differently to every other festival. Instead of there being one giant merchandise tent and a couple of stages, every single band has their own tent. It’s this massive carnival or fair or something like that. It’s just bands sitting in their tent and hanging out and kids coming up and saying, “hi” and just throwing water bombs at each other and barbequing and stuff like that. It’s a really cool festival to be on.

Coming up in September you have your massive tour in support of “Deep Blue” playing alongside your mates in 50 Lions and The Ghost Inside. Does it make much of a difference bringing along your good friends?
Oh, definitely! It makes a huge difference. You make friends on tour as well and some of the best friends that we’ve ever made have been on tour. To be able to take bands out that are friends of yours and a lot of bands that you respect as musicians, it’s such a wonderful position to be in to pick and chose what bands you get to play with. It’s really, really great. It gives you the chance to help bands out or play with bands that you haven’t been able to see before and stuff like that. It’s definitely a privileged position to be in.

Does it make it that extra little bit special having your brother come on stage before you play?
Yeah, it does. It’s pretty good. We just toured Europe with them as well. I love 50 Lions. Even if it wasn’t my brother singing I would love their music anyway. I’m close to my brother and he’s a great musician and they’re a great band. It’s going to be great to see them play, especially in that size of a venue! It’s a pretty large tour. I kind of can’t believe that it’s come to this.

Yeah, you’re show in Melbourne is a Festival Hall which is quite an upgrade from the last run of shows! Do you think that some of the intensity can get lost in such a large venue?
We’ll see how we go. I’ve always thought that it could get lost but we’ve played a fair few shows overseas and especially in Europe on stages of that size and in rooms of that size and it really comes down to the attitude given across by the band and how they chose to receive the audience. You can go to these kind of venues and all of a sudden be like, “Oh, we’re such rock stars! And we’re going to have giant speak stacks to stand on and be rock and roll people!” or you can play like you’ve always played and make the vibe and make the show the way [that] you want it. So we’re just going to set ourselves and do what we always do and hopefully the show is just a giant version of what normally happens.

With yourselves, The Amity Affliction, Buried In Verona and a heap of other bands releasing heavy albums this month, do you think that it could signal a new dawn for metal and hardcore. music in Australia?
Maybe! We’ll see how it goes. I don’t think that it has taken a backwards step in many, many years so I can’t see it stopping now. It could either completely explode or it could be overwhelming or it could stand still. It seems like the calibre of music that has been released lately has been stepping up and up and up in Australia and I guess that’s why the reception keeps on getting larger. There’s no reason for it to go backwards when there’s such quality. I think people are finally realising how good Australian bands are. Bands that are in their backyard instead of looking overseas for their inspiration. With the music that they listen to, they can finally have something of their own to be proud of. I guess that it’s just all of a sudden booming.

Parkway Drive has toured extensively all over the world. How do Australian fans stack up to fans overseas?
Ah, crazy! Definitely the proudest fans. Let’s put it that way. Australian shows are still the best shows that we play. They’re so, so fun. It seems like every single show that we play overseas, no matter where we are there’s at least one Australian that will come to the show and they are guaranteed to try and start up an ‘Aussie Aussie Aussie’ chant in the middle of nowhere which is really cool and bizarre. You don’t have that from any other band. You might have someone come from Europe for an American show or something and be all like, “Hey! I’m European!”, but they won’t just be all out, loud and screaming just yelling, “Yeah!! Australia!!” between every song. There’s a lot of Australian pride involved!

What was the most bizarre place that you’ve had an ‘Aussie Aussie Aussie’ chant started?
Oh, god. To be honest, I have trouble remember where we haven’t had an Australian fan come to see us. It’s really strange. In Slovakia we’ve had people come up to us and maybe even in Russia. It really is one of those things that is almost guaranteed every single night . To have someone come up to you and say “I’m from Australia” or hear and ‘Aussie Aussie Aussie’ chant is just so random.

Just finally, what are you hoping that people can really take away from “Deep Blue”?
I’m expecting people to either like it or not like it. That’s pretty much it. We’re stoked with how it turned out and it would be nice if people liked the songs and we get to play some new songs live. We’ve been playing the old ones for three years now. It’s music. It’s all in other people’s ears. I can’t really predict anything. We have no real expectations. We just make it and enjoy the process of making it. That’s all that we can really do. We’ll let people decide if they like it or not.
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DEEP BLUE REVIEWED
TRACKLISTING
Samsara
Unrest
Sleepwalker
Wreckage
Dead Weight
Alone
Pressures
Deliver Me
Karma
Home is For the Heartless
Hollow
Leviathan I
Set To Destroy
WHAT THEY SAY
Byron Bay sensations Parkway Drive are set to cement their reputation as one of the most dominant exponents of heavy hardcore on the planet with their spellbinding third album, Deep Blue.The hotly anticipated follow-up to 2007's Horizons, Deep Blue raises the bar in every conceivable way. While maintaining the band's uncompromising metallic-hardcore style at its core, it pushes into exciting new realms, drawing from a wider scope of influence, incorporating everything from anthemic pop-punk to bloodcurdling death metal.With improved musical abilities and a thoroughly inspired approach to songwriting, Parkway Drive have tied the music and lyrics together into one all-encompassing concept. "It's basically about the search for truth in a world that seems to be devoid of that," says vocalist and lyricist Winston McCall, explaining the narrative running through Deep Blue. "The story is told through the eyes of a man who wakes up and realises that his life is a lie and nothing he believes in is real. So he tries to find the truth within himself and his journey takes him to the bottom of the ocean and back again."Having recorded their first two albums with Adam Dutkiewicz of Killswitch Engage, Deep Blue was tracked and mixed in Los Angeles, CA by Joe Barresi (Queens Of The Stone Age, Bad Religion, Tool), and mastered by legendary mastering engineer Brian Gardner. Crisp, unprocessed and impossibly heavy, the production on Deep Blue brings out every nuance of Parkway Drive's freshly re-focused sound."It's definitely the Parkway record I'm most proud of," claims Winston. "We felt like were in the deep-end recording with someone new, so to have it come out exactly how we wanted it, and pretty much exceed our expectations, is a big ask, but that's exactly what Joe did for us."With 13 tracks in all, standouts include "Sleepwalker", "Deliver Me" and "Unrest". Bad Religion guitarist and Epitaph Records owner Brett Gurewitz makes a guest vocal appearance on "Home is for the Heartless", which brings epic punk rock choruses and crazed metallic finger-tapping guitarwork into the established Parkway Drive paradigm."We figure that song is going to be the most polarsing thing we've ever written," Winston says. "People are either going to like it or they are going to hate it. I think it worked. That's one of my favourite songs on the record! "Already one of the most anticipated heavy releases of the year, Deep Blue represents an exciting new chapter in the story of Australia's most successful hardcore band. Celebrating Resist Records 100th release, Deep Blue will be unleashed on June 25th.

OUR QUICK THOUGHTS
There is only one way to listen to this album, and that is as loud as possible. The production of this album is stellar, in this day and age where bands are overproducing it's a breath of fresh air to hear something sound so good, without all the tricks and trimmings too many bands rely on these days. Parkway Drive and Joe Barresi have managed to pull off one of the most accessible, yet oh-so-heavy album sounds in a long time. This album will be the one that bands run flocking to producers now to say "this is what we want to sound like". You can have the perfect production, but without quality songs, you are left with nothing. The thing that has made Parkway Drive so successful to date is that they have never followed a formula with their music, they've never stuck to one set sound and what they deliver does appeal to more than just your typical hardcore / metal or punk fan. They appeal to all of them, and never have they done it moreso than on this album. What they also do is pull the live energy and transfer it to the studio, everything you hear on the album, you can expect to hear live, they don't go overboard, everything is natural. Something far too often forgotten. The first single 'Sleepwalker' is an explosive number that's probably already stuck in your head, that is of course until you hear 'Home Is For The Heartless' and you begin to "whooaaaooh" along. Set to be one of the highlights of the live set no doubt is this one, thousands of fists in the air, and lungs chanting along, it's bound to be quite a sight. That's one of the highlights of listening to the album, pretty much every track, you can picture exactly what it will be like live, and knowing the dedicated audience these guys pull, every word will be sung right back at the band. 'Deadweight' is another that will set the crowd alight, this one is a punk song, done by a metal band, to perfection, probably the album's best track in my opinion anyway, followed closely by 'Karma'. There isn't a dud song on this album, it absolutely smashes anything similar that i've heard in recent times and as I mentioned, it's going to be the benchmark album for a lot of people in the coming years. Everything about it screams awesome, from the production, to the lyrics and songwriting, to the artwork / booklet and the first filmclip we've seen. Good luck to anyone else releasing an album this year, because you are going to have to come up with something damn special to beat this album. Big call I know, especially coming from someone who generally avoids this genre bar a select few bands, but the band has nailed this one. Punk fans will dig it, hardcore fans will love it, and metal fans will cream over it. You thought they couldn't get any bigger than they already are? Grab a beer, sit back and just you watch the Parkway Express keep chugging along. It's massive.

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DEEP BLUE TRACK BY TRACK BY THE BAND
SAMSARA
We have always had some kind of intro into whatever record we have released, and it generally follows with a breakneck pace. This time around we wanted to do the opposite and just create a heavy drone. The lyrics are taken from both the George Orwell novel 1984 and the first noble truth of the Buddha. They serve as the beginning of the lyrics themes of this record as does the build up of music.

UNREST
The goal for this song was simple, fast, and heavy. The main riff was originally a breakdown that we decided to try and use as a riff in itself hence its chugging nature. We wanted this to be relentless from start to finish, but at the same time reasonably abrupt. At the time is was the shortest song we had ever written. This song features the ONLY change we made from pre production to the final product. We lengthened the last breakdown by one bar because Joe liked the “groove”.

SLEEPWALKER
From the word go this song was about the riff. I love the riff in this. Its so stupidly simple but it sticks in your head like gum I’m your hair. Thanks Jeff. This was one of the earlier songs that we wrote for the album which we really embraced the idea of repetition. In the past we have tried to mash as many riffs as possible into a song. This time around we figured if a riff is good, why was it by just hearing it for two bars. We structured this a little differently to anything we have done in the past. Instead of just building the song up to a breakdown we chose to drop the last section into some melody. It’s strange for us but one of my favourite parts of the album. This song takes a lot of influence from the novel “one flew over the cuckoos nest”.

WRECKAGE
This song is about riffs. From the word go we chose to write this song in a very basic fashion and just let the riffs drive the song. It’s pretty slow but it hits fucking hard for a more melodic based song. Writing this song was another case of writing in a simplistic manor and just leaving the song once it felt right. For a song that contains on little breakdown I think this song is one of the heaviest on the album

DEADWEIGHT
One of my favourites. It has everything. The melodies in the intro chords remind me of the offspring, the fast parts are breakneck and the Breakdowns crush everything else on the album. There’s not much else to say about this one. Again it’s simple, but it works for us, plus the bass at the end is a monster. So dirty.

ALONE
The most melodic song on the record. There’s not too much to say, other than there is a jazz funk bass interlude hahaha. The lyrical images for this song were actually about written after surfing one night. We went to go out after work around midnight and I arrived and I managed to arrive before everyone. The waves were good so I decided to go out by myself. Sitting in the ocean, surrounded by complete blackness above and below, a massive summer storm was exploding on the horizon. Birds flying past my head, making noise but remaining invisible. Makes you feel very small in the scale of things.

PRESSURES
We wrote this as the centre of the record. It was nicknamed reverse for the reason that it is literally half a song, turn over on itself and played back. We reached the middle breakdown and then played everything back again, hence the strange noise at in the middle. From there on it’s all reversed. The guitar lead you hear the second time around it the same as the first, just played backwards note for note , which is why it sounds kind of familiar. The lyrics are based on the story of Siddhartha, by Hermann Hesse.

DELIVER ME
I like this song, I think because it has a bit of everything in it. Its heavy, it has some hooks too it, but the centre clean section is so soft a calm. We wanted to make a song that was just insanely heavy, but also had complete calm, the idea being both parts play off against each other and accentuate both aspect as much as possible. Not sure if it works, but I like the song.

KARMA
Probably the most ‘Parkway” sounding song on the record, this was the last song we wrote before going in to record. There’s not a super amount to say about this one to be honest. It’s fast, it’s heavy, and the lead part at the end reminds of the old theme song for that old Australian TV show ‘Ship to Shore’.

HOME IS FOR THE HEARTLESS
Probably the least ‘Parkway’ song on the record haha. I’m guessing this would come as a little bit of a surprise for most people on first listen, but we never really went out to make it this way to be honest, it just kinda happened. We did want to do something a little different but when the riff was written we saw opportunity to try the punk rock element, for better or worse. Luckily we had Mr Brett to help us out and I guess 30 years of punk rock harmonies can help you get it sounding at least alright. The weird thing is, while the chorus really sticks out on this songs, the guitar and drum work on this track are some on the most technical on the whole album. The lyrics are about the over development and gentrification of small towns. Coming from Byron its really something that hits close to home.

HOLLOW
This is actually a remodelling of an older song called HOLLOW MAN. Basically there was elements of the older song we still loved, but other parts, mainly the central riff ,that we didn’t. We like the idea of rerecording it tuned wayyyy lower, but the riff sucked, so we figured lets cannibalise the song and re do it. The intro is pretty much the same, the structure is the same, the middle breakdown and ending are the same. I re wrote the lyrics, using a couple of the original elements, and then our friend Marshal from The Warriors helped us out with the verse on the middle build up. It’s weird, the song sound totally different, but so familiar at the same time.

LEVIATHAN I
This song is heavy. The lyrics and theme come from Friedrich Nietzsche
‘And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.’
We are told to find peace in a world that we create and fill with anything but. We all wish for peace and peace of mind, but the reality is we are violent, volatile beings. We thrive on conflict and dominance, and no matter how hard we try, our surroundings consume us inside and out, and the resulting actions are anything but peaceful or enlightened.

SET TO DESTROY
The shortest song parkway has ever written. We wanted to end the record the same way we started. It’s pretty much the exact opposite way we ended every other album and that’s the point. We wanted to punch people in the face and have it end before they even realised what the fuck happened. Its annoying hahaha. It’s a song of pure anger and violence. If we can’t find peace in ourselves, we will do anything we can to take it from others. We become the monsters we try so hard to destroy
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